Meanwhile, in its original state (god love ya typea, thanks so much for inactive open windows and the forward):
Because I would write that same letter for you or anyone else in this group.
Not only would i never expect such a letter to be written for me, were i to run my big mouth as much as she did, i'd be wondering why it took me as long as it got booted as it did, and would hardly expect anyone i chat with online to rally to my defense.
I'll go farther than
because if ya can't, you know what to do.
Sure do. Later gators.
So it's perfectly clear, and i don't have to answer questions for a week.
DO NOT speak for me, ever, unless you've got your name tattooed on my labia or you've been asked to. You want to stomp around like the cock of the walk and wow all the biddies with your uber cool toughness, be my guest. You want to proudly boom about the fantastic group that you've got (little newsflash: the users make it fantastic, it's got precious little to do with you, but anyway), go nuts.
But don't presume to lump me and the entire membership of that group, en masse, into one pot of "we all feel this way", because it's not only wholly and utterly dishonest, it's just fucking cheap and inane.
You think Redbrat should be reinstated? Great, have a fucking parade and get it painted on your back. Don't use me, or the rest of your membership, to try and make your point, without even asking us first. And sure as hell don't do it when you're specifically told that the pawns you're trying to use do not consent to being used that way.
It passed self-important and full of shit and became downright fucking sleazy.
Oh. And if i ever did succumb to martyrdom and want such a letter written for me? I'd have it written by someone who doesn't ask me to do their editing. Ugh.
7 comments:
from Casual_Reader
*shakes him hed*
I hate repeating myself... but here it goes:
damned straight, if anyone is going to be "downright fucking sleazy", it ought to be you.
and come on back to THT... we've got a "give daay the butt fuckin she so richly deserves" petition going on
go on - admit it... creating drama like this is a sure indicator that you're in need of a good butt fuckin. You might as well... I've already posted that that's what you told me in IM. heh
.... if I had a nickle for every time someone spoke for me - put words in my mouth - mischaracterized my actions / words for their own agenda... I'd have a whole lot more nickels.
1. No anal.
2. I love when you do non-consecutive lists. Chaotic order = hot.
3. It's not just the "speaking for me", it's that it's completely unethical and cheap politics to sign my name to a petition without my knowledge, and then, without my consent once i've said "hell no". There are no actions or words to mischaracterize, because i was quite vocal about my position on the redbrat thing, and quite silent on all requests to sign petitions etc.
This isn't about redbrat, so everyone's clear. I could give a fuck either way, frankly, since i don't know her from adam and have never had a problem with her. I am disappointed in management bringing her back, but whatever - another beef, another blog.
It's about the dishonest, unethical, and, in my opinion, self-important actions of an owner of an online group.
Which, when you think about the outrage thing, is really quite funny. Fucking interwebs.
4. No anal.
from: Casual_Reader
who's outrage we talkin about here?
"owner of an online group"... you take that seriously? Do you really think anyone would read that and think "oh, daay's in that group!!!! therefore she's solidly behind the sentiments of the e-mail"?
chair leg pr0n, now. and use a balloon this time.
For god's sake, will you stop trying to get things in my orifices?
I can do that quite solidly on my own, tyvm.
(And yeah. That's why i said "lol @ the outrage. Owner of an online group of freaks, wingnuts, and pervs. I should be so lucky as to have that on my resume)
from: tuezdaye
It's not a question of someone reading the group list and thinking 'wow, look at all the people who are behind this'. It's the principle. I like principles. After I picked my jaw up off the floor after reading I'd been spoken for, I hit the Leave button too.
And it's not because I want to get into daay's ass. Anal ((shudder)) Or even for the shoes.
Principles.
from: Lewd_Lolly
Daay, I don't think it's true that you didn't give a fuck whether redbrat came back or not, otherwise you wouldn't have overreacted.
And you did.
You could have still made your point, in 1000 commiebitch words or more, without the dehotlistings and leavings. GT has always been self-aggrandizing, it's part of his charm and comes with having a really big dick, so it ain't that that has the bug up your arse. I was thinking yesterday, after reading some of your posts (yeah I do that), that the redbrat issue was really pissing you off. Because you were so pissed off about it, GT's 'I'm da boss' faux pas, became a principle you had to stand for.
[drphil] Don't be afraid to say that you care [/drphil]
Now come back to THT dammit.
Re: Lolly
It's true that i've been quite vocal that Redbrat earned her ban, because, honestly, that's what I believe. I also believe that I'm a bigmouth too, and I've been smacked many a time because of it, so I know that's kinda the way those things go.
Do I think she should have been allowed back? Nope, i don't, and management's gone down a peg in my mind because of it.
But i don't generally care, overall. In the grand scheme of my bcom life, it's not really all that important one way or the other, because i don't even talk to, or generally read Redbrat. It's not personal, it's principle.
And that's the thing. I can, and do, get rather ..uh..fervent when i take a position on something. This situation was no exception.
I get that GT gets fervent too, and I get that he's a hothead. I know, I've heard it for myself. And maybe that's part of the reason I made the decision I did. There've been a few times, over course of time, that i've thought of leaving that group, there've been a few times, increasingly so, over time, that i've not been interested in interacting with GT, because i think he's foolish, self-aggrandizing, and generally immature in ways that aren't appealing.
This one stuck. It really was a principle thing, and it really was important to me to hold fast to the principle, because for me? When i call you friend, when you know my name, my home number, my address (fuck off, Dawn, I'm hardly going to expose anyone who knows my information as well, since i have more than a couple chickens and a rabbit to protect from crazies), then I have expectations of you - not the least of which is that you'll honour my refusing to grant consent to any number of permission liberties you might want to take. Because if you don't, there's not only a basic lack of respect there, there's a threat to my self-protection, because i get intimate and vulnerable with my friends. Someone who makes clear that they aren't going to respect that doesn't get to be one.
I'm not afraid to say i care, Oprah (:P). I'm just not attributing the caring to the wrong place. Redbrat stays or redbrat leaves, whatever, another turn of the bcom wheel. Being used to further someone else's agenda to make EITHER of those things happen (for record, i'd have been just as offended had he said to ban her on behalf of his group) isn't ok, and i do care, very much.
I could have made the point in 1000 words or less. I could have let go the point and carried on.
Or i could have left, and refused to come back because i'm just not dying to be there and wrong is wrong, no matter how many people agree and ask me back.
I chose C. 'Cause c stands for cookie, for cunt, and for commitment to my own principles.
Send me your sex pics and i'll consider it.
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